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Post by teebag » November 14th, 2006, 12:50 am

Also, spend more money on your CPU and motherboard then GPU. Because all new graphics are PCI-e x16, you can update your computer anytime if your graphics card isnt fast enough. However, if you want a new CPU you will propably get problems with sockets etc, thats why its better to spend some more money on the CPU then GPU.
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Post by Drofder2004 » November 14th, 2006, 12:53 am

Yep a good PCI-e motherboard, processor AND a GFX card will be cheaper and more efficient than the AGP options.
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Post by Luke » November 14th, 2006, 1:33 am

http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/117211/rb/23045629438 19 inch tft monitor for £123.83 including VAT and shipping, looks pretty decent imo.
I'm not completely up to date on the latest technology as far as motherboards/cpu's go, but for an AMD system the AM2 is the latest socket, but a socket 939 isn't a bad choice either. You gotta decide on this before you can decide on the CPU, GPU, and RAM.
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Post by teebag » November 14th, 2006, 6:10 pm

I have an S939, outperforms the AM2 however AM2 is much better for future upgrades :) AMD Athlon is good for overclocking, stock cooling and custom cooling.
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Post by 9mm » November 14th, 2006, 11:53 pm

the 939 does not outperform am2. It is your cpu that is better not the socket. Also if you are cheap and do not plan to upgrade 939 is fine, but if you have the money then go for the am2 since all the new amd's will be for am2(like the 4x4). I would also recommend looking into a C2D as they can be a good option and are very easy to overclock. As for the GPU i would not get anything in the 7 series(unless u have the money). I would get something cheaper that will just get you by until it is time to move on to a dx 10 card. Finally for the monitor I would only get a crt as long as it will fit on your desk. They are much cheaper and have a higher resolution and will have a much higher refresh rate.

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Post by Luke » November 15th, 2006, 12:04 am

I've read a review about the am2 vs the intel's core 2 duo and the intel outperfomed the am2 in all areas :shock: might be something to consider.
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Post by Drofder2004 » November 15th, 2006, 1:35 am

Luke wrote:I've read a review about the am2 vs the intel's core 2 duo and the intel outperfomed the am2 in all areas :shock: might be something to consider.
Intel > AMD
Nvidia > Radeon

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9mm wrote:I would only get a crt as long as it will fit on your desk.
LCD > TFT > CRT

Do not get a CRT, a TFT is affordable and is a lot greater than a CRT. The TFT graphics are sharper and more crisp than a CRT, and is visually better, plus no need to worry about desk size.
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Post by Soviet » November 15th, 2006, 2:26 am

intel is better than amd for multi-application users, amd is better for gamers

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Post by 9mm » November 15th, 2006, 4:41 am

drofder wrote:
9mm wrote:I would only get a crt as long as it will fit on your desk.
LCD > TFT > CRT

Do not get a CRT, a TFT is affordable and is a lot greater than a CRT. The TFT graphics are sharper and more crisp than a CRT, and is visually better, plus no need to worry about desk size.
For gaming crt's are still better(unless they hurt your eyes).

They have a 0ms response time
crt's also get higher refresh rates. They can get over 100 will an lcd will only really go up to 75.

so if you only really use your computer for gaming and you dont have the money for a high end lcd a crt is much better

some high end lcd's still can be very good but they are still not better for gaming. You will also need a high end graphics card to work well since they work best at their native resolution which is hard to get with a cheap computer in games.

In the end if you only care about gaming(me) a CRT is much better for the price. But for an average person as long as you dont have ghosting(only cheap lcd) problems in games you will be fine with an lcd.

So it really just comes down to how much you care about gaming and also a huge factor is how much money you have to spend.

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Post by Drofder2004 » November 15th, 2006, 7:24 am

A good LCD/TFT has a response time of 12ms, which will not cause any ghosting/motion blur.
LCD ares brighter/sharper/crisper, this will improve the look of everything, including games...
Most LCD's can have above 60Hz, and tbh, I see no real difference between 60, 72 etc...
LCD's use less electricity than a CRT and in turn cause less radiation

I am not giving my opinion blindly either, I owned a CRT for several years and now own a TFT (for 1 year), and I can honestly say, I will never go back to CRT.
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Post by teebag » November 15th, 2006, 12:56 pm

~lol~ Intel>AMD ~lol~
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Post by Nightmare » November 15th, 2006, 9:29 pm

teebag, what is wrong with you?!?!

AMD is so much better than intel
the crap the intel sells is far over priced and doesnt even come close to AMD's performance.
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Post by Drofder2004 » November 15th, 2006, 9:59 pm

Nightmare wrote:teebag, what is wrong with you?!?!

AMD is so much better than intel
the crap the intel sells is far over priced and doesnt even come close to AMD's performance.
He was being sarcastic to my comment ;)
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Post by teebag » November 15th, 2006, 11:39 pm

Yes, what Drofder says. However the new Intel quadcore pwns, but waste of money. I bet AMD comes with a 100 core lol.
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