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Post by Soviet » February 17th, 2006, 4:01 am

now i know no one will read all this, but here is something i posted on my xanga, a comment, then my edit and another comment

I have had a breakthrough, upon reading this portion of the bible, i have become one in myself, a true christian with love and cherishing for God above any other being upon this wonderful and blessed earth. And so i share God's words among you my children of the Lord, so that we all may be blessed and holy.

10 "In that day," declares the LORD,
"I will destroy your horses from among you
and demolish your chariots.

11 I will destroy the cities of your land
and tear down all your strongholds.

12 I will destroy your witchcraft
and you will no longer cast spells.

13 I will destroy your carved images
and your sacred stones from among you;
you will no longer bow down
to the work of your hands.

14 I will uproot from among you your Asherah poles
and demolish your cities.

15 I will take vengeance in anger and wrath
upon the nations that have not obeyed me."

(Micah 5:10-15)

And so, i shall end sarcasm. It seems to me God has got quite a temper. He is stating he will destroy all witchcraft and destroy spells. This concept which arises puzzles me. These heathens of which this "good lord" speaks of are no more than wiccans, and it seems that this almighty being needs to do a bit more research before declaring such horrific deeds to be done by him. He states he will throw down their false images (statues) and yet the wiccan religion believes that mother nature is the one true god, they have no statues which they worship, though they may have symbols of mother earth. And no other religion have i ever heard being mentioned which contains reference to any spells or witchcraft. So i must reach one of several conclusions. One, this religion was annihilated by God for their disbelief. Two, this was mistranslated, which therefore means other verses could be mistranslated, causing the whole bible to be innacurate, thus disproving the whole theory of the modern day christian religion. Three, God is but an ignorant fool with no true knowledge and only blind ignorance to lead his beliefs. Or four, God does not exist and this was made up by rambling drunkards, insane men, people who wanted control and power, or perhaps religious finatics. Now, onto other subjects of less insultation of one's seemingly ignorant, misinterpretted, or false beliefs.

Happy Valentine's Day one day late. Though i don't know how it was happy. All i did was sleep, eat, watch LOTR The The Two Towers, finish reading LOTR, and watch some winter olympics, which btw, RUSSIANS TOOK GOLD IN FIGURE SKATING AND SPEED SKATING...P-OWNED. Okay, sorry, but they did. And so i wish you all a late happy Valentine's Day once more, may you all be happy with your relationships while they last, and for those which believe it is merely a day to make fun of people not in such relationships, well damn, your probably right.

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Hi, I wondered here through a friend's link. No idea who you are, but it looked interesting.

First off, feel free to completely disregaurd what I say. It's not an attack on you or anyone else, I just want to share my views. In fact, that's what the 'delete' link is for.

Your mistranslation theory, combined with theory numbero uno is probably the closest thing to the truth. What probably happened was actually a misinterpretation between the words and your brain, and the fact that a bunch of old religions have died out.

Witchcraft doesn't refer to simply Wicca, but also to any form of supernatural power - other than that of the Judeo-Christian God. Wicca is not the first religion of witches, and hasn't really even been around long enough to be refered to. The witchcraft the Bible talks about was more along the lines of when Saul visited a medium to speak with the ghost of Samuel (Samuel 1 28:3-25) or the people worshiping Baal or Osiris. While most people would call Wicca harmless fortune telling, it's more than that.

Wicca involves paying some hommage to the spirits of the natural world in conjunction with worship of the God and Goddess. What do you think the bowls of water or candles and whatnot are? they're an offering to the elements or cardinal directions, which, while they have no statues dedicated to them are still venerated in that way. (“Spirits of the North, Old Ones of the Earth. I call upon you to attend my circle. Guard it with your powers Mighty Ones!” ~ http://www.controverscial.com/Circle%20 ... k%20Circle ) Basically, they idolize an idea without an actual idol (or sometimes with, using a representation of the idol in their rites - e.g. Salt for North on the above website).

Christianity says "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me." The two clash. God gets jealous when we choose to worship things that aren't Him. That's why there aren't supposed to be idols.

Yes, God can be vengeful and angry. (Jesus got mad and knocked everything in the temple over, and remember that whole flood thing?) But he is also a God of infinate love and compassion. I'm pretty sure you've heard the rest of the sphiel from someone else if you're poking fun at it.

Anyway, that's just my take. Thanks for listening.

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and now my reply to their comment

EDIT: okay, in response to a certain comment received, let me expand slightly more within the theory of God reaking vengeance upon those who do not believe in him. First, let us realize that these people may have never had a chance to even believe in another religion as it was shoved down their throats, of course, wait, then again Christianity was shoved down peoples' throats as well. So now after that lets get down to the real point, now im just mentioning now, i will not go into strenuous detail due to the fact that i have insufficient time to, but lets just have a quick comment on god. "extremely compassionate", this is what i would like to call utter contradiction. If, in truth, god had compassion for these other people, then, in fact, he would not ruin their civilizations. He would not destroy their people simple for a belief, he would understand their blind and ignorant beliefs, and forgive them for their mistake. Likewise, God is said to be the true essence of all that is good. Jelousy, of course, is not good, rather it is sad, ignorant, foolish, and something of an unpure ignorant mind. In fact, i think it is stated somewhere among the commandments to not want what your neighbor has, neighbor implying anyone. If you want to go on a deeper intellectual root, jelousy is a human emotion which we are subject to, and few have overcome it. For god to be subject to an emotion such as jelousy, something he must have created, he is in truth an imperfect and flawed being. Thus we can confirm that God is not infact almighty, simply slightly more gifted than the rest of us, and is subject to that which is evil, so in many senses, he is subject to the devil.

Now, wiccanism. I am sorry, but i honestly believe in wiccanism and paegenism more truthfully than christianity. Now, before you say i know nothing of christianity, you are wrong. I have read the bible, i comprehend the concepts of it, and have deeply comtemplated its concepts before turning away from it. My 18 year old sister is Paegen, she has power over energy. At first i did not believe her, but she told me to sit down, and she sat down across from me. Afterwards, she closed her eyes and looked as if she were concetrating, a few seconds later, i felt this cool tingling sensation of some type of breeze or draft passing over my face, which i was informed was energy. Wiccanism is not merely chanting spells and incantations to the devil, and for god to assume that it is bad is utter idiocy on his part. Have you ever heard of the three fold effect? As part of the wiccan religion, any type of spell that you cast occurs three fold back upon you, thus, if you were to try to do something evil, something three times worse would happen to you, it doesn't seem to be so evil. My sister has a friend who is wiccan, and is mostly in tune with nature ie: trees plants etc. There are sources proving the existance of the pagan religion long before any christianity. I am not saying i am pagan, but i am not saying i am athiest either, rather i am agnostic. I believe there is a possibility of anything, even christianity. I believe anything is possible, and i enjoy different views. But i do not enjoy people blindly having faith in something without knowledge or reason. So when someone says what religion they are, i will ask them why. For example, why do you believe in God?, why do you believe in Reincarnation? etc. And so far the only reasonable responses i have ever heard are from athiests.

Any, yes, ANY religion is equally likely. I believe in Greek Mythology as much as i believe in Christianity, why? because it cannot be proven or disproven, it can not be said to be true ot false. And personally, i will not make a life commitment to something that i do not know is true. You may respond that i am like the disciple, who when jesus reappeared did not believe it was truly him until he touched the holes of in jesus hands and feet. Now of course, we stumble upon another flaw, which of course devout christians will simply claim is a mistranslation, i mean, god forbid anything that supports them to be mistranslated, but OH, if something happens to disprove their religion, then it must be mistranslated. Anyway, it is not possible for Jesus to have these holes, as the human hands cannot support such tension, the nails would have to be secured into his wrists for it to not rip through his flesh. Bertrand Russell puts it excellently when he says "I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong." So, it seems to me god is jelous and hates people. And he is shallow in this belief because he does not understand why these people believe. I mean, come on, god created these beings, why did god not create them with the capability to immedietly understand he was the truth. And your response is, oh well, he wanted to give them freedom of choice. Nice theory, but why give them a choice to believe what they want if all that comes from it is him killing innocent people? your arguements are all that i have heard many times before in other debates. I, myself, have much more i could supply in arguement if i wanted to waste the time typing it all, such as the following.

God said, do not eat from the tree of KNOWLEDGE of good and evil. So they did and they were eternally punished for disobeying God, now why did he not want them to do this? Freedom of choice, yes, its freedom, but he did not explain their choices. Why did he create this tree then? idiocy? ignorance? i am not sure, perhaps you can explain it better cause i am drawing a blank here. And knowledge of good and evil? Sounds to me like he didnt want them to gain knowledge of what is bad. And god created this where there is bad stuff, so oh my, the bad must be God's mistakes. If so it sounds like God was embarassed and didn't want them to notice. And he wanted them to remain stupid so he could have more power and mess around with them if he wanted to. And etc etc, this goes on and on if i want it to.

Likewise, why did god create evil, because he created everything, he had to create evil...no, no devil made evil, not him, god created him with the capability of creating evil. It can go on and on, i have not even begun to comment on the flaws in christianity, and the flaws i have commented on i have barely scratched the surface of the deep and terrible depths they reach to. With all this said, i do not mean to sound mean, or bad, or sound like christianity, i am merely taking the side of the athiest to prove my point. So sorry if this offended you in any way, i am merely showing a different perspective, albiet a very shallow perspective with a great lack of detail which i do not have time to say.

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if you read all this then you are absolutely amazing or extremely bored, but i posted this to prove a point. Do not mess with a Soviet, cause he'll come back and most likely kick your ass :) that, and i posted this to show you that i can do more than just post meaningless spam like what you probably think this is. :P

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Post by St.Anger » February 17th, 2006, 12:49 pm

U right! I dindnt read the whole post! :lol:
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Post by Luke » February 17th, 2006, 1:39 pm

^ what he said

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Post by Rince » February 17th, 2006, 2:05 pm

^^ wat he said and he said

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Post by Pedsdude » February 17th, 2006, 2:39 pm

^^^ what they said lmao
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Post by Soviet » February 17th, 2006, 2:55 pm

lmao, its simply something to read on a rainy day...when cod isn't working...and all other websites are down....and nobody is home....and teamspeak/msn/irc aren't working :P

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Post by Drofder2004 » February 17th, 2006, 4:27 pm

Fuck reading that. :P
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Post by aicaramba » February 17th, 2006, 5:38 pm

Think he likes to get to 2000 posts as quickly as possible :P
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Post by Lisa » February 17th, 2006, 6:23 pm

Soviet,

Your arguments can be applied to just about any type or religion. But the bottom line is...you believe what you want to believe.
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Post by Rince » February 17th, 2006, 9:41 pm

...u read tht holy shit mother of god?

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Post by hambones » February 17th, 2006, 9:51 pm

Rince wrote:holy shit mother of god?
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Post by -venom- » February 17th, 2006, 10:32 pm

did any1 read the whole thing? lol
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Post by hambones » February 17th, 2006, 10:59 pm

nope :)
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"It's so funny of how I think my life is supposed to be devoid of any sort of heartache or drama or anguish or pain. It's sad but I think that I make a value of my days by the times I wake up and feel somewhat normal, but what I really need to do is get out of this fucking house and get laid."

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Post by Soviet » February 18th, 2006, 1:05 am

ok, here is motivation, you read the whole thing and you get a cookie, and not just any cookie, but a PEANUT BUTTER & CHOCOLATE CHIP COOKIE.Yes, i know what you are thinking, a peanut butter and chocolate chip cookie, how amazing, but it is true my comrades... :P

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Post by -venom- » February 18th, 2006, 1:38 am

i could walk to the kicthen and get one :D
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