Single Player Game Saved Missing

[Soviet]

Downloading a game is like raping someone with short term memory loss. Chances are they won't track you, but that doesn't mean it is right. Downloading a game is like starting a war. You might get short term benefits, but in the long run a lot of people are going to suffer because of your ignorant selfishness. Just because people go around and steal stuff, does that mean you'd go and do that too? It is the same thing on the internet. While calling the police isn't as easy or effective, the action is still just as wrong.

The fact that you've downloaded this doesn't speak very highly of your moral values. You're harming other, for what? Playing the game a few days early? Are the long term effects really worth it? This is the same thing as people not voting for president because they don't think their vote matters. That mindset travels quickly and pretty soon you could have the bigger jackass in office. When you download a game you are perpetuating the mindset that it is okay to download games and in doing so you are portraying the pc gaming community as a bunch of assholes. I don't care if console gamers do it, they're immature shitbags. I care about pc gamers and the image we are portraying. Right now it isn't a good one, and you are part of the cause.

[JDogg]

I totally agree with you, but, I personally think a leaked game is a different story, if I had the choice to either waste my bandwidth downloading a game I'm going to buy anyway or just buying the game, I'd buy it. But, the game isn't out, and I wanted to play it a few days early. It's wrong I know, and I can't justify what I did.

[steveuk]

CASE REOPENED: lol

Reason i downloaded the game is i realy wanted to try out Single player fast and get tot he Zombie Bonus game as it looked realy cool and as i had already paid for the game i thought there be no big Deal, in downloading the game,

I always like to at least Try befor i buy, ok we got the Beta, but that was only for multy player, i wanted it for single player, as i still play Single player on COD1,2 & 4 & U.O, ive compleated single player on all these games 5 times now,apart COD 4, ive done that 4 times.

Like ok i may done wrong in peoples eyes, that i downloaded a copy of a leaked game and should of waited, but who's fault is it in the first place, the developer, they should be more secure in there software releases. Games are Ripped and leaked very quickly, they only have them selfs to blame,

I think to stop all this they should put 2 or 3 codes onthe games, 1 for installing the game, 1 for online use, and 1 for securty unloc for hidden features. that way it be more harder to play the games. Like Jdogg Said, they should use a authorization server that pings your computer to check if the game is legit, if it is you unlock bonus content, and are able to download patches.Mods & Maps. Maybe s file that locks the game even if ping reports back saying the game is illegal.

Ive downloaded a few games from the net, some Demos, betas even Full version games that you have to pay for.
UBiSoft ow has the full Game of Brothers in Arm avalible for Download, ya just pay then thats it, coz it's a download, it quicker to download then goto the shop and buy.. If im to download a game and paided for it, am i still to get the game on CD? or to burn it to CD Myself. Would i be allowed to burn the game is the point, have i brought the game of just the CD Key.?

If COD developers was to add more security on there software, and put more security on who they gave it to, then leaks wouldnt happen, but it does, and not for just on COD but other Software.

I think ya making a mountain out of a mole hill realy, so i downloaded it, but ive already said ive paid for a copy lets just say i got mine a little early,so what no big bloody deal, i cant play it fully, i cant go online,to play multyplayer, as it says 3 things.
1: invalid Key Code, and 2: I cant even make a Profile. 3: Servers for full relase arnt even up yet,that i know of. So whats the Big deal i get a early relase of the game, like i said , i got it to play the Single player, which ive now done, and to be honest it wasnt that great, ive compleated it already, there is not as many chapters in the game as like in the other Cod games, The Bonus Zombie was and is total Shit realy to compare what the demos looked like... Mayeb might be betterwith Co-op, but i doubt it.

IVe mainly brought the game to carry on jumping with you guys,which i hope to do when the full relase ofthe game comes through my letter box hopefull this week, i like to see what the Map Modtoolsare like when they are release as i may even give mapping another go, for my own use this time as my last maps Failed, none of you liked them.. lol

Anyways bored you enought, but i agree with what Jdogg has said. And i for one still dont think i am in the wrong for downloading a leaked copy and i Dont class it stealing as ive paid for the game befor hand,lets class thisas Beta 2, coz i dont have full acces to the game and all the features anyways....


Steve

[JDogg]

Yeah but even if they come up with more ways to stop piracy, pirates get around them.

[steveuk]

Yeah but even if they come up with more ways to stop piracy, pirates get around them.

True, then they need to stop selling games at a high price, £30 for a game, they should do this.
release betas, if beta is liked they can buy a cut down version of the gamesell it for like like £5 , if they like the cutdown then they could let people buy addon's, like perks, more maps, Bonus's ect,ect for a small price , like 50p to £2 each per addon Or even a Adddon package with Perks, mpas, Bonus for £3:50. Think that may work.
Steve

[Infinite]

I don't see the problem here. Basically, its a demo. We can't play mp or co-op, so if we like it enough, we buy it. Those Nazi and rape analagies are horrid. That's like comparing a bar fight to murder. They are both bad things (usually) but they just don't compare in how brutal or bad they are. We are contributing to piracy by buying cod5 and playing it a few days early (according to what Soviet says). I honestly can't see what's wrong in that picture. We are giving our money to the makers of the game, and therefore spporting them to create more games, and you think that its not the right action aparently, otherwise you wouldn't have argued about piracy on this thread. I agree that piracy isn't such a great thing in the world, and only douche bags would continue to play pirated games that they like and not pay for them, but you can't stop douche bags from being douche bags, unless you go to their house and destroy their computer . Grats, we got a game a few days early, and aparently it HAS been released in some areas of the world, so its not really an "unreleased" game, although officially it is.

[Drofder2004]

Yeah but even if they come up with more ways to stop piracy, pirates get around them.

True, then they need to stop selling games at a high price, £30 for a game, they should do this.
release betas, if beta is liked they can buy a cut down version of the gamesell it for like like £5 , if they like the cutdown then they could let people buy addon's, like perks, more maps, Bonus's ect,ect for a small price , like 50p to £2 each per addon Or even a Adddon package with Perks, mpas, Bonus for £3:50. Think that may work.
Steve

I don't think you quite understand the concept of business...

Game Developers don't do their job solely for the fact they love making us happy, they are a business! Their goal is to make as much money as possible, selling 1 MILLION copies of a game for £25 less than their normal price is £25 MILLION not earned.

Think it through.

[[SoE]_Zaitsev]

I'm looking forward to CoD5, yet I wait, why can't you ?

[Soviet]

Those analogies are dead on. While they may be a bit more extreme, it is essentially the same thing. Especially the t-shirt one. Like what Drofder said, these people make games to make money, not so you can pirate them. I don't care if the full game of CoD6 was leaked right now. By downloading you are supporting the pirating community and contributing to it. It may not seem like a big deal, but when 50% or more of the pirating community thinks it "isn't a big deal" you start to have major issues. You are part of that statistic that game developers are going to look at and say, "I don't think we should release this game for PC." Do you think they have statistics for how many people pirate games but buy the real version before or soon afterwards? No. If they did there would be a lot more arresting for pirating games. I find it completely ludicrous that I am sitting here debating how right it is to do something so blatantly against the law.

[Infinite]

I would imagine that they would have statistics as to how many bought the game, opposed to how many were pirated. If you did both, then you would be added to both sides, therefore supporting piracy, and supporting the company that made the game.

Piracy is illegal. that is correct. let's define what software piracy is. "The unauthorized use or reproduction of copyrighted or patented material: software piracy." (http://www.answers.com/topic/piracy) According to what the definition is, it is the unauthorized use or reproduction of COPYRIGHTED or PATENTED material. Now think about this. CoD5 is Copyrighted (i would assume) and it is a form of software. In the end, all it is, is binary code on your computer, which CHANGES over time. You can't copyright 1's and 0's, unless you are the one that made the binary code itself. drof said it himself:

1. I accessed MY computers MEMORY.
2. Any details that are stored in MY computers memory is MY property.
3. I did not, copy or reproduce any material, I used my legal right to READ the memory.

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Therefore, "software piracy" is nothing but the use of 1's and 0's on your computer and accessing your computer's memory.



AND YES, I WAS JOKING ON THAT LAST PARAGRAPH, DO NOT FLAME ME xD. I was bored and felt like writing something to entertain some people (or piss someone off o.o). please don't kill me for it . Anyways, Piracy over games cannot be stopped unless the Companies who make the games find out a way of having a form of REAL security over the game, such as having all of their keycodes on a private database, so that users have to verify them by going online, or something to that effect.

[Drofder2004]

1. I accessed MY computers MEMORY.
2. Any details that are stored in MY computers memory is MY property.
3. I did not, copy or reproduce any material, I used my legal right to READ the memory.

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Therefore, "software piracy" is nothing but the use of 1's and 0's on your computer and accessing your computer's memory.

Worst. Example. Ever.

GTFO.

[Soviet]

Oh, well now that it is just 0s and 1s it is okay. In fact, I'll go steal some clothing. After all, it is just fibers from a plant woven together and hey, don't we all own the earth?

[Infinite]

Oh, well now that it is just 0s and 1s it is okay. In fact, I'll go steal some clothing. After all, it is just fibers from a plant woven together and hey, don't we all own the earth?

good idea .

[Nightmare]

Ok, this is pissing me off.
You guys say as an excuse: "How about they add more security so people can't pirate them"
I say this: How about you stop downloading the pirated versions of video games?

It's because of idiots like you that EA is using this super strict security system which made many Spore users angry.
It's because of dolts like you that more games are being released to consoles because it's safer for sales.
It's because of retards like you that we as PC Gamers get a worse and worse reputation.

I'm tired of this bullshit, the act of downloading a game before release is i-l-l-e-g-a-l.
Case Closed, no point in discussing it.

[JDogg]

Ok, this is pissing me off.
You guys say as an excuse: "How about they add more security so people can't pirate them"
I say this: How about you stop downloading the pirated versions of video games?

It's because of idiots like you that EA is using this super strict security system which made many Spore users angry.
It's because of dolts like you that more games are being released to consoles because it's safer for sales.
It's because of retards like you that we as PC Gamers get a worse and worse reputation.

I'm tired of this bullshit, the act of downloading a game before release is i-l-l-e-g-a-l.
Case Closed, no point in discussing it.

Yeah guys just stop replying there's no point, everyone has there own view. To be completely honest my view on piracy has changed, I've never thought that "If everyone thought like I did, there would be no game developers", and I enjoy the game so I will support the game developers.