What Determines How Far You Jump?

Luke · Post by **Luke** » October 28th, 2005, 2:00 am

Rentokil wrote:from what I can tell, not a sprint in sight!

teh haxorz! well its rare to see a sprint in CoD

Neon · Post by **Neon** » October 28th, 2005, 9:29 am

Luke wrote:
Rentokil wrote:from what I can tell, not a sprint in sight!
teh haxorz! well its rare to see a sprint in CoD

yeah true

woCooM · Post by **woCooM** » October 28th, 2005, 11:33 am

the church jump on arhnem is about 280x-30 units... from a mappers perspective but because of the small runup spritning its the only way to do this jump :p

pitty the button i used for spritning on my mouse is broken

Rentokil · Post by **Rentokil** » October 28th, 2005, 11:46 am

Hi WoCoom

Are we talking about the same jump? I can do the small sprint jump onto the church roof from the graveyard. However, in one of the Gromgutten demos, he shows a jump from the church roof across the street towards the Allied spawn! On the demo, he definitely strafes across (although he may also be sprinting).

Rentokil

Post by **Drofder2004** » October 28th, 2005, 11:49 am

Rentokil wrote:Hi WoCoom

Are we talking about the same jump? I can do the small sprint jump onto the church roof from the graveyard. However, in one of the Gromgutten demos, he shows a jump from the church roof across the street towards the Allied spawn! On the demo, he definitely strafes across (although he may also be sprinting).

Rentokil

That jump is WAY to far to normal strafe. Like Wocoom said, 280 units, few jumpers can make 250. Church accross to the ruined wall, is a big spint-strafe jump, and can be quite hard with low fps (that spot halves fps)

aicaramba · Post by **aicaramba** » October 28th, 2005, 3:32 pm

Yeah. im having big troubles doin that jump.. very hard with 20-30 fps

Grom · Post by **Grom** » October 29th, 2005, 7:35 pm

I made a demo long time ago, to help out a guy with that jump. You can see it here: http://www.home.no/bakmar/Filer/arnhemjump.dm_3

Like other people says, I think the gap is around 280 units (Im using sprint of course).

So, take a look at the demo, maybe it makes it easier for you to see where to jump from. Good luck !

Rentokil · Post by **Rentokil** » November 1st, 2005, 10:19 am

Great skills, Gromgutten! A little beyond my powers at the moment!

However, I have made some pretty good progress on the smaller strafe jumps. I can now jump the first gap on Peds Practice! That's it, though! Which brings me back to the original question - What is it that allows Destiny to hop between these jumps like a turbo-charged Kangaroo, whereas I am stuck just beyond the starting line? What do you chaps aim to do when performing a really large strafe jump - do you want to flick the mouse back the greatest distance possible? Do you want to get as close as possible to pressing the strafe key, jump and mouse at the same time? I can finally strafe jump but have no idea how to improve (or, more precisely, exactly what I am trying to do to improve).

As always, your tips and guidance would be greatly appreciated.

Rentokil

Luke · Post by **Luke** » November 1st, 2005, 1:30 pm

Rentokil wrote:What is it that allows Destiny to hop between these jumps like a turbo-charged KangarooRentokil

333fps tbh

j/k, Destiny is a very accomplished jumper. What fps you got Rentokil? make sure you're getting a stable 125, otherwise you might not get much further than the first jump. There is more than one way you can "hop between these jumps like a turbo-charged Kangaroo" its technique, which will come with lots of practice there's no shortcuts or quick way of getting good at it, i'm always being asked like, what makes you jump further? even tho they can already strafe pretty good. its difficult to put your finger on it, but its basically a variation from a simple technique, and you just sort of tweak it. The speed and direction you flick the mouse is very important, and if you time it right in combination of using the strafe keys it will give you an extra boost.
If you send a demo we could look at ways to improve your technique, but it sounds like you're making progress so thats good.

Rentokil · Post by **Rentokil** » November 1st, 2005, 4:41 pm

Thanks, Luke

I set my fps to 125 and it's constant. I can get 333 but there is definitely some volatility. I may try that.

Funny you should mention the speed and direction of the mouse. After hours and hours of practice, I found that I was flicking the mouse more upwards than either left or right. I am far more consistent now that I concentrate on flicking it left or right only i.e. I try not to flick up or down at all! Not sure if this is entirely necessary but it has certainly helped me to start out. You other noobs out there may want to try that out.

Thanks for the offer to review my technique - I shall try and put together a short demo - although you may have to wait through several failed attempts before you get to see the real thing - so stick the kettle on before you watch! Still, I guess its the unsuccessful jumps that will give you the best idea of where I am going wrong. Hope to have something with you soon.

Cheers

Rentokil

De$t!ny · Post by **De$t!ny** » November 1st, 2005, 8:55 pm

for that demo i used 125fps, cos with 333fps u have 2 strafe jump a bit differently to go as far as 125. as for flicking the mouse, its fine if u just use horizontal movement as in quake 3 if uve ever seen strafe jumping in that. but i usually look down so i can see where im going to be jumping from since for the longer jumps you really need to jump from the edge of platforms. just use whatever works for u

Rentokil · Post by **Rentokil** » November 2nd, 2005, 3:45 pm

Luke

As promised, I have put together a warts 'n all demo of my strafejumping attempts. It is a UO demo on mp_jump. Your comments (or any others comments) would be apprecited.

Thanks for your help.

File at - http://www.savefile.com/files/7104149

Rentokil

Luke · Post by **Luke** » November 2nd, 2005, 9:52 pm

The demo won't load because of a mod you must have installed which I don't have. Would be better if the demo was done in CoD rather than UO too.

Rentokil · Post by **Rentokil** » November 3rd, 2005, 10:16 am

Sorry, Luke

I am not sure how you actually turn the Mods off - there does not appear to be any way of doing that from the main menu. However, I have repeated the exercise with CoD and the only Mods showing in the folder were CoD Multiplayer and UO - both of which I assume are there from the moment you install.

If this file does not work, then I may have to reinstall to clean out my folders.

File at http://www.savefile.com/files/2055320

Thanks again

Rentokil

Ownia · Post by **Ownia** » November 3rd, 2005, 12:32 pm

Rentokil wrote: Thanks, Luke
Funny you should mention the speed and direction of the mouse. After hours and hours of practice, I found that I was flicking the mouse more upwards than either left or right. I am far more consistent now that I concentrate on flicking it left or right only i.e. I try not to flick up or down at all!
Rentokil

lol i now know that i do the same thing as you. But ofcourse i also flick it to the left/right quickly but a bit upndown too. and the funny thing is that i realized that when i started thinking about wy am i moving my head up and down really fast when i jump

Its true lol