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Re: [COD4] MP_Needs_Skill *NEW*

Post by XeloX » May 16th, 2011, 11:39 pm

Drofder2004 wrote: There were more than 2 NSFW images...

I have opened most of them up, "ass", "sara", "14" & "sexy_secret" are all NSFW.
There is one called "nude" which wouldn't open and "tesing" which is borderline nsfw.

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Also, why keep the Gravity Gun?
The servers that WANT the gun can have it, those who do not, should not be forced to have it.
Just remove it or it wont go on selected servers...

Edit 2: The downlaod link is jsut for the IWD, no .ff
Yes i see what you mean, however i would like to point out that a rather large number of *jumping* maps have similar if not even more revealing pictures in their maps.
The "sexy secret" and "nude" have been replaced in the latest update. Those nsfw pictures appear in the secret room like a LOT of other maps have, and they show (in the latest version) no nudity (nipples/the bits).

"And also image files that would conflict with the files already on CoDJumper servers such as the gloves.
And finally, at least 4 porn images (potentially more) are not acceptable for CoDJumper servers.
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I guess i ment to say Porn images and not NSFW in my last post.

About the gravity gun, i dont understand what the objection is to this as it will only work on my map.
I added the gravity gun in the first place so i could have a way of moving about the map and assisting people no matter what server i joined (it gives me a usp_mp as i spawn).
Could you explain wich servers are those "selected"?


In other news, links fixed again. Sorry guys i had a long day..
Well, off to sleep.

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Re: [COD4] MP_Needs_Skill *NEW*

Post by Drofder2004 » May 17th, 2011, 3:33 am

XeloX wrote:no nudity (nipples/the bits).
A woman lying naked in a suggestive pose is porn and is definitly NSFW. Just because no "nipples" or "bits" are showing does not take away from the fact it is clearly softcore porn.
XeloX wrote:i dont understand what the objection is to this as it will only work on my map.
The objection is simply, if we wanted it on our servers, we would have it there. Why should your map be an exception to the rule?
XeloX wrote:I added the gravity gun in the first place so i could have a way of moving about the map and assisting people no matter what server i joined (it gives me a usp_mp as i spawn).
Maps should get progressively harder, if your map has been made correctly, a player stuck at the half way mark is not going to benefit from you placing him to the next section... as said, if admins wish for help to be provided on their servers, fine, but on the servers that do NOT wish for a gravity gun, shouldn't be forced to have it.
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Re: [COD4] MP_Needs_Skill *NEW*

Post by XeloX » May 17th, 2011, 2:34 pm

Drofder2004 wrote:A woman lying naked in a suggestive pose is porn and is definitly NSFW. Just because no "nipples" or "bits" are showing does not take away from the fact it is clearly softcore porn.
Right, well, as i said there are maps out there that have pictures that are way more suggestive then the one's in my map.
Besides, these pictures that are in this map were in my previous map and i cant recall that ever being a problem.
Maybe it is just you....
I have them ONLY in my secret room(s), just as i did last time, wich i recieved a lot of "positive" feedback for FYI.
Drofder2004 wrote:The objection is simply, if we wanted it on our servers, we would have it there. Why should your map be an exception to the rule?
Why does it bother you this much that "on my own map" i have a gravity gun? its just an addition to my map just like as i recall another map has a chicken gun in a hidden place.
Drofder2004 wrote:Maps should get progressively harder, if your map has been made correctly, a player stuck at the half way mark is not going to benefit from you placing him to the next section... as said, if admins wish for help to be provided on their servers, fine, but on the servers that do NOT wish for a gravity gun, shouldn't be forced to have it.
Right, "if your map has been made correctly" since when are there universal rules on making a jumping map?
Do YOU decide how everyone is supposed to make their maps?
I am sorry, but could you PLEASE leave my thead.
Your arrogance is getting quite annoying to be frank, i have always had the upmost respect for all codjumper members but i am getting tired of your "i am better then you" attitude.
I removed the 2 images that would be considered pornographic (to me anyway) and removed almost all gun mods, take it or leave it.
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Re: [COD4] MP_Needs_Skill *NEW*

Post by XeloX » May 17th, 2011, 3:08 pm

KillerSam wrote:
XeloX wrote:Besides, these pictures that are in this map were in my previous map and i cant recall that ever being a problem.
Maybe it is just you....
Apologies for the confusion caused by our oversight, we'll get that map removed ASAP.
Then you might aswell remove mp_bouncer_training for the same reason...
And some other maps but ill get back to you on that one.
I dont understand the hostility against me, i have spent months making those maps just for this website.
edit: could you also perhaps link me to a post saying what i can and cant put in my map? that would be much appriciated to avoid problems like these in the future.
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Post by DFQ1|Mad Jumper » May 17th, 2011, 3:16 pm

Wow, alot of hostile action being taken over some pic's and guns which makes no sence, alot of maps being made now have arange of weapons and pic's so really whats the big deal??
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Post by Drofder2004 » May 17th, 2011, 4:59 pm

XeloX wrote:I have them ONLY in my secret room(s), just as i did last time, wich i recieved a lot of "positive" feedback for FYI.
I didn't realise the key to getting positive feed back was placing porn in a secret room.
I'm glad we are rewarding kids (which, lets be honest, the majority of CJ are) with porn [a felony in most Countries :)]
XeloX wrote:i am getting tired of your "i am better then you" attitude.
I have never stated I am better than you, but there is one thing I am, a moderator. And the content of your map breaks our rules, and I am here to moderate it. I apologise for not being so difficult with other maps and their content, but they didn't add silly discliamers. If it makes you feel less hard done by, I will check EVERY release from now on.
XeloX wrote:I removed the 2 images that would be considered pornographic (to me anyway) and removed almost all gun mods, take it or leave it.
Porn is not a matter of opinion, it is a genre, and the images I mention in a previous post were all porn. The level of how pornographic it is, is not a topic in question.
XeloX wrote:Why does it bother you this much that "on my own map" i have a gravity gun? its just an addition to my map just like as i recall another map has a chicken gun in a hidden place.
This is NOT an addition to your map, you have this weapon solely for the reason that if YOU (and you only) connect to the server, you will be given this weapon. There is a major difference between adding a gun for fun and adding a gun for your own benefits (and the benefits of who you personally choose).

If you want to add a chicken gun to the secret room in your map, I have no objection.
XeloX wrote:I am sorry, but could you PLEASE leave my thead.
Once the problems have been resolved, I will no longer be needed in this thread.
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Post by .:iSpawn:. » May 17th, 2011, 5:31 pm

Dammmmmnnnn shits gettin real in this thread.

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Post by F |Madness| U » May 17th, 2011, 5:39 pm

Some of what KS and Drofder are saying is pure win.

Also, what is the need to add porn (or whatever you call it if doesn't quite class as porn) to your map? I'm pretty sure people are playing the map for the jumping aspect of it, if they want to look at porn they can simply go visit a website.

Having porn on a map isn't going to make more people play it, people don't play a certain map just because it has these images on it. If anything it will make less people play it, because if somebody is playing the map and comes across porn, they may be offended by it and stop playing the map (aswell as not playing any more maps the mapper decides to make).

I personally am not going to bother playing this map or any that you have made/will make, because you seem to be completely retarded for adding pornography to it with no need.

Finally with thw gravity gun issue. You being able to connect and have a gravity gun means that you can easily complete the map fastest, and on some servers people like to race to the end. Also if other people can obtain gravity guns at a certain point in the map, they may cause havoc by floating around the map disrupting other people. Either way just read what Drofder has written, it's pretty obvious that if a server wanted a gravity gun, they can have it on their mod.

There are no rules as to what you can put in your map, put whatever the fuck you want in it. However it's unlikely that it's going to be accepted by the CJ Moderators if it contains this kind of content.
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Post by [SoE]_Zaitsev » May 17th, 2011, 8:03 pm

I agree with whatever Drofder is going to say because on most occasions he's right anyway :P
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Re: [COD4] MP_Needs_Skill

Post by XeloX » May 17th, 2011, 10:43 pm

Drofder2004 wrote:I didn't realise the key to getting positive feed back was placing porn in a secret room.
I'm glad we are rewarding kids (which, lets be honest, the majority of CJ are) with porn [a felony in most Countries :)
I guess i can see what your point is, what i however dont understand is that this seems to be perfectly fine on other maps,
ah well, thats what i get for adding a stupid disclaimer.
So for you there is no difference whatsoever between non-nude and nude "pornography"?
Drofder2004 wrote:This is NOT an addition to your map, you have this weapon solely for the reason that if YOU (and you only) connect to the server, you will be given this weapon. There is a major difference between adding a gun for fun and adding a gun for your own benefits (and the benefits of who you personally choose).
My question remains, why does it bother you this much that i have a gravity gun? For me it is my reward for making the map + it allows me to show other people how to do things without actually having to do all of my map.
Little addition to that, i am originally an oldschool jumper, never got really good at it so unless i have 3 hours, i wont be able to complete my own map.
xSnipeZx wrote: Also, what is the need to add porn (or whatever you call it if doesn't quite class as porn) to your map? I'm pretty sure people are playing the map for the jumping aspect of it, if they want to look at porn they can simply go visit a website.
As a reward for getting to the secret room, i added sexy (non-nude, meaning that you can see either nipples or private parts....) pictures.
It is not a part of the normal map but rather a reward. It is only visible inside the secret room aswell.
xSnipeZx wrote:I personally am not going to bother playing this map or any that you have made/will make, because you seem to be completely retarded for adding pornography to it with no need.
That is fine with me, but please do explain why i am a retard for adding them.
xSnipeZx wrote:Finally with thw gravity gun issue. You being able to connect and have a gravity gun means that you can easily complete the map fastest, and on some servers people like to race to the end. Also if other people can obtain gravity guns at a certain point in the map, they may cause havoc by floating around the map disrupting other people. Either way just read what Drofder has written, it's pretty obvious that if a server wanted a gravity gun, they can have it on their mod.
There are NO gravity guns lying around the map. furthermore it is pretty much my only way of completing the map (within timelimits) that i have, i dont spend a lot of time jumping these days.

If you dont want to be bothered reading all that, ill change the pictures, I am sorry for violating any rules (that are aparently unwritten) and had no idea this was not allowed since i see it in so many maps.
The gravity gun, i would very much like to stay for reasons named above.


Oh and if you going to enforce this rule on the servers you better get ready to remove a lot of maps.
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Post by Drofder2004 » May 17th, 2011, 11:00 pm

XeloX wrote:I guess i can see what your point is, what i however dont understand is that this seems to be perfectly fine on other maps,
So for you there is no difference whatsoever between non-nude and nude "pornography"?
1. It is NOT fine on other maps, but I have never checked other maps, I figured it would e common sense to not have porn in a map. I have no intention of removing current maps, simply because of the level of hassle it would cause other people having to redownlaod files and potentially having several errors due to mismatched files.

2. Nudity is any part of the body showing. To be literal, it is any part of the body that is unclothed.
There are however types of nudity which are allowed and which are not. The only picture I would consider non-nude in your map would be the "desktop" picture (which is borderline).

Rule of thumb. When deciding on appropriate or not, just think "Would it be ok/normal for this person to walk around the street like this?".
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Post by Lawless » May 17th, 2011, 11:14 pm

Drofder2004 wrote:
XeloX wrote:I guess i can see what your point is, what i however dont understand is that this seems to be perfectly fine on other maps,
So for you there is no difference whatsoever between non-nude and nude "pornography"?
1. It is NOT fine on other maps, but I have never checked other maps, I figured it would e common sense to not have porn in a map. I have no intention of removing current maps, simply because of the level of hassle it would cause other people having to redownlaod files and potentially having several errors due to mismatched files.

2. Nudity is any part of the body showing. To be literal, it is any part of the body that is unclothed.
There are however types of nudity which are allowed and which are not. The only picture I would consider non-nude in your map would be the "desktop" picture (which is borderline).

Rule of thumb. When deciding on appropriate or not, just think "Would it be ok/normal for this person to walk around the street like this?".
Go Drofder lol
Well he is right, Would you let your sister/mom or any female relation [I don't want to offend you so...] and another girl walk around the street in thongs hodling eachothers asses? , Thought so. [Or else you might let them but thats just wrong for you, I wouldnt mind because there not related to me. lol]
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Post by iRaiinyy » May 18th, 2011, 1:05 am

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Post by XeloX » May 19th, 2011, 6:17 pm

Thanks, appriciate the feedback.

I think its time for a little update, replace very single image so no more girls to be seen.
Worked 2 days on impoving the map in other aspects.

I have one question however, is this loadscreen ok?

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And should i open a new topic with the *fixed* version of my map?

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Post by Lawless » May 19th, 2011, 7:00 pm

XeloX wrote:Thanks, appriciate the feedback.

I think its time for a little update, replace very single image so no more girls to be seen.
Worked 2 days on impoving the map in other aspects.

I have one question however, is this loadscreen ok?

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And should i open a new topic with the *fixed* version of my map?

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Well that loadscreen is ok to use.
and Peds is getting pissed off with you making updates, I think =S because he said "You taking the piss?" when you made an update already.
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