CoDJumper CoD4 Load Bounce

[Lancast]

So that script u put makes the load position slower 0.5 sec? How will that help it? You can make the load position even 5 secs , if someone would really want he'll still do the load bounce, he'll just load right after strafe and when he hit the bounce it will load. Or it freezes you after you load?A 0.5 sec freeze wont fix it at all, u have at least 2 secs on most loadbuonces to move after u make it, but lets say a 2 sec freeze might fix it ..but that will just be annoying because every time u load u have to wait 2 secs, will ruin the game. What's the point of fixing this? Its a nice glitch.

[Infinite]

So that script u pou put makes the load position slower 0.5 sec? How will that help it? You can make the load position even 10 secs , if someone would really want he'll still do the load bounce, he'll just load right after strafe and when he hit the bounce it will load. What's the point of fixing this? Its a nick glitch.

perhaps you should learn what certain commands do and not "guesstimate" what they do. It freezes your controls as you load, and prevents previous conditions, such as having a velocity in a specific direction (bouncing for instance), from being put on you when you are loaded into a new position. I also said that there could be an if statement to determine who could load bounce (seeing as how it only happens to people with high ping), and it could only be put in place for them. They are lagging already, so it's very unlikely that they will notice a huge difference. 0.3 seconds is not much anyways.

[Lancast]

I thought it freezes u after u load, thats why I edited my post before u just made this one above. And as I said, a 0.3 freeze wont fix it, at least 2 secs, but that will just be annoying.

[Infinite]

I thought it freezes u after u load, thats why I edited my post before u just made this one above. And as I said, a 0.3 freeze wont fix it, at least 2 secs, but that will just be annoying.

Never mind. You don't understand what I am saying ><.

[Lancast]

I am, it freezes your controls as you said, whats not to understand. Anyway, I forgot to tell you one thing about loadbounces. You wanted to freeze controls so they wont be able to move on a invisible wall after they bounce and load, well the thing is, even if u make a 1 hour freeze, it probably wont fix it, because after u load after the bounce, u wont loadbounce straight unless u bounce perfectly straight, the loadbounce most times gives u a boost in a direction, so if u freeze the controls it wont matter, just the load by itself without you doing anything after load will move u to a invisible wall or whatever ur loadbouncing to.
Other solution to fix it..Just prevent loading at all while being in air? That might fix it as u usually load a tiny bit after u hit the bounce, someone still might be able to make it with that fix but it will be much harder and you never know whats goin on with huge lags... But doing this solution, will seriously ruin the mod. Just let it be, loadbounce is a nice glitch, even tho people know how to do it, not many can do it, so far ive only seen me, dan and ost do it.

[Infinite]

I am, it freezes your controls as you said, whats not to understand. Anyway, I forgot to tell you one thing about loadbounces. You wanted to freeze controls so they wont be able to move on a invisible wall after they bounce and load, well the thing is, even if u make a 1 hour freeze, it probably wont fix it, because after u load after the bounce, u wont loadbounce straight unless u bounce perfectly straight, the loadbounce most times gives u a boost in a direction, so if u freeze the controls it wont matter, just the load by itself without you doing anything after load will move u to a invisible wall or whatever ur loadbouncing to.

[Lancast]

You highlighted where I said that it freezes u but it moves u to a direction?
Don't you get it, you hit the bounce, the bounce is never straight, you just hit the bounce and u bounce either left right whatever, and u load position after u hit the bounce, u dont press left, forward,back or right, nothing, u just double F to load, then ur freeze will freeze ur controls for 0.3 but it wont stop u from loadbouncing to a direction since the bounce before u loaded and got frozen already was going in a direction. Perhaps you should try doing loadbounces first as you dont seem to understand how they work.
I'm not a scripter all I can do is guess from ur script to what it does ..
Another thing could be that after u load, the freeze will make u stop moving at all? that wont work, not with the lag. Try doing loadbounce with ping +700, after u double ff to load it takes sometimes even up to 5 secs to load so the freeze will just fail.


Why fix it..Its just another nice glitch.

[Infinite]

You highlighted where I said that it freezes u but it moves u to a direction?
Don't you get it, you hit the bounce, the bounce is never straight, you just hit the bounce and u bounce either left right whatever, and u load position after u hit the bounce, u dont press left, forward,back or right, nothing, u just double F to load, then ur freeze will freeze ur controls for 0.3 but it wont stop u from loadbouncing to a direction since the bounce before u loaded and got frozen already was going in a direction. Perhaps you should try doing loadbounces first as you dont seem to understand how they work.

Or you mean that after u load, the freeze will make u stop moving at all? that wont work, not with the lag. Try doing loadbounce with ping +700, after u double ff to load it takes sometimes even up to 5 secs to load so the freeze will just fail

Let's help to make this more clear as to WHY I highlighted those two statements, seeing as you obviously don't get it.

It freezes your controls as you load, and prevents previous conditions, such as having a velocity in a specific direction (bouncing for instance), from being put on you when you are loaded into a new position.

I had JUST posted that, but you completely ignored the majority of the statement.

It does not take up to 5 seconds to load if you have 700 ms. On your screen, it may seem like that, but the actual time it takes is the time for the server to receive your commands and to execute them (which is, unbelievably, 700 ms!). Since you have 700 ms, it takes you .7 seconds to send packets to the server, and it takes the server .7 ms to send packets back to you, which makes a total of 1.4 seconds for your screen to update to something which the server has executed, if it is executed by you doing something such as attempting to load. I know how bounce loading works, and I used to do it back when people actually used it to get out of maps. By even even bringing up that you think that I don't know how it works just shows that you are attempting to insult me.

The bigger and better question for your scenario is: Why would anyone even be on the internet with a ping of 700 ms to ANY server in the world?

As for my solution, you can easily make it a variable wait time, depending on the ms of the person. You keep on telling me that the lag will make it impossible to fix load bouncing when I am giving you a perfectly fine way to fix it, and at least attempting to fix it. If you are going to tell me why it won't work, at least tell me in terms of the programming language which CoD4 mods use as to why it will not work.

[Lancast]

I can't argue with you whenever it will work or not, I could only tell you what I thought would happen on the statements which I thought I knew how they work but I was wrong. I'm not a scripter so don't get me wrong if this is a dumb question, but if the server lets say with ping 700 it would take the server 1.4sec to receive and send me back the packets to update my screen, how come the actually time I see on my screen is totally different, doesn't the server read the Y, X and Z positions of where you are and updates them? Well, this stuff isn't for me,I dont get how things work unlike you since Ive never been scripting in cod4 so I can only do "guesstimate" ,if you say it will fix it or it might, fair enough, since I have no idea how cod4 engine works I can't argue. But don't fix it tho, besides me, dantheman, and o/s-t/m/o/b that still bother to play on codjumper servers, I never seen anyone else doing the loadbounce, so its just another nice glitch for people to learn, its not very useful, its just something nice to do after you finish the map(Custom map).
BTW:
Erm, I didn't mean having 700 ping on a server stable, I meant like, on my server(cj#9), I have ping about 60, but I put uploading on, that makes my ping go really high , depending on what the speed of upload I set.

[BlueDamselfly]

But don't fix it tho, besides me, dantheman, and o/s-t/m/o/b that still bother to play on codjumper servers, I never seen anyone else doing the loadbounce

It's easier to play computer games while your eyes are openned btw.

its just something nice to do after you finish the map(Custom map).

Considering drofder's scripting skills, I'm 100% sure he'll find a solution, especially since infi has already got one that you chose to ignore.
Therefore, you may still use loadbounce on older mods if it is something nice to do for you, I don't get why they wouldn't fix it on newest versions, it is totaly dumb and extremly annoying.
I remember it, about 1 year ago, 15/16 persons on server were saveglitching/loadbouncing, it was annoying as hell, if CJ can indefinitly fix it, then they have to.

I remember ai saying how they prefer to have half empty servers with people actually jumping, than full servers filled with saveglitchers.

CJ should be used to find game tricks, not CJ tricks, KS has pointed it right, they would simply enable no clip otherwise.

Quit arguing honestly, they have to fix it, and I'm all for it.

[Lancast]

Why would he fix it, nowdays not many people do it and if everyone's here so much into fixing,updating stuff, how come none of the codjumper servers besides mine one has the updated codjumper mod with the 3rd person? Just let it be, no point fixing it,nobody uses it as nobody knows how to do it from those who *still* play on cj besides few people and nobody cares, its not useful, its not a shortcut to finish any map, its just something fun to do..
BTW: Damselfly, wow are you such an ignorant? How did I ignore infinite's statements? I didn't, I just defined them wrong since I'm not a scripter and I thought they do/work differently from what infinie explained.

[Drofder2004]

Yes Infinite, this is how CJ mod currently stops the load bounce, although cba to check exact wait time.

[BlueDamselfly]

BTW: Damselfly, wow are you such an ignorant?

No I am not. You're simply weird, arguing over stuff that you don't even know about. Just let them fix it and shush, honestly.

[Lancast]

Erm see your an ignorant again, you quoted half of my statement, the other statement was that i ignored the what infinite said when I didn't ignored,I defined them wrong, and now you ignored that quoting half of my point and saying I was weird and ignored the whole discussion where I told infinite why I defined how I did...Im sure you dont know about those stuff urself..Aren't you the one who said that you kept doing loadbounces way back before, and on first page of this topic you had no idea how to do them? Oh yea, you said ' you forgot '. Stop trying to showoff yourself, read careful and stop being ignorant quoting half of the point. Btw: You said yourself that you dont play cod4 anymore, why so into it when nobody cares about loadbounce? This guy who started this topic wanted to know how to do them, he didn't ask you to make a fix that prevents you from doing it.

@loadbounce
Still dont see a point why fixing it, not many people play on normal maps(why use it there anyway?), sometimes on cj #4, rest servers that people play in are custom maps, those are , cj #9, cj #1, osg, tbh jp, for real for fun, this mod might only be updated on cj #1 but seeing it is still running the old version of cj so its like nobody cares anyway, rest of the servers wont update it for sure, why bother?..

[Soviet]

This entire topic makes me cry.